Yes, thanks again. I have tried different permissions--including the 755 and 756 on that folder.

I'm not sure I know where the php.ini file is. I can get into the MySQL database but I'm not sure i have full access to the server.

But it seems if I use a folder within the root, then that's not an issue.

It doesn't seem that I can get direct web access to files within my drupal root folder.

Gosh, just not sure what to try next. Can I give you admin access to the site to take a look?

I note too that the file is here http://www.writingdepartment.org/plan2/files/private/esplanner_basic.txt But that doesn't open that file, so as you say, there must be some permissions problem.

Dan