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Concerning the drupal/ubercart module page

http://drupal.org/project/ubercart

It was posted 5 years ago by Andy_Lowe. The 'Ubercart Livetest' link(http://livetest.ubercart.org/uc2/) is broken,
which is I suppose, relatively speaking, not a big deal, as what I might take to be the 'correct' link,
http://demo.ubercart.org/, is also broken. I get that link from here: http://www.ubercart.org/demo_livetest
Which reads:
'A live demo is always up for testing at http://demo.ubercart.org. The demo site is running the
latest release of Ubercart and resets every hour.'

I suppose that I could check back in an hour? Smiling

Also, I've looked at http://www.ubercart.org/, and the 'Latest News' there is represented as:

'10/07/11 - Ubercart 7.x-3.0-rc2'

However, at the drupal/ubercart module page (above), there is an rc3 available since Dec-06-2011.

Also, when I went to create a user account (I'm new here), on this page:
http://www.ubercart.org/user/register

I got an email, saying this:
'After logging in, you will be redirected to
http://www.ubercart.org/user/24530/edit so you can change your password.'

However, in fact, I was redirected to this page:
http://www.ubercart.org/user/24530

Where I read this message:
•Login successful.
•You have just used your one-time login link. It is no longer possible to
use this link to login. Please change your password.

There is however no instruction on this page, as to how one might change one's password.
(In fact, probably the link should be to http://www.ubercart.org/user/24530/edit).

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Regarding http://drupal.org/project/ubercart the "posted by" date is when the project was first created; the page has actually been updated several times since then by myself and TR.

The broken demo site and other problems with ubercart.org are known issues that have been flagged to Island Usurper and Andy_Lowe - the only ones with access to fix it - but they have not shown any interest in doing so, unfortunately.

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These forums are for general support questions about Ubercart.
Bug reports and feature requests should be posted at http://drupal.org/project/issues/ubercart
Latest API documentation can be found at http://api.ubercart.me/

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I can accept that the page has actually been updated, I'm not sure that I seriously meant to convey that I thought it hadn't been updated in 5 years--rather, maybe something like 'last updated' would be better at the top of the post, before any business like 'posted by xx on date at 7:37pm', especially if by 'posted by', we rather mean something like 'created by' and definitely not 'edited by'.

I'm sympathetic about the point that of course if you're used to looking at module pages which have all always followed this format since forever (which I haven't), then you're probably quite used to it--hard to see this as the usability issue that it is, to a newbie. On the other hand, I need to take this up w/drupal.org not here.

I'm trying to be equally sympathetic about the broken demo site and other problems with ubercart.org. Known issues, have been flagged, the only ones w/access have not shown any interest? I can believe that the module maintainer is busy. I can try to imagine, at least, what that is like. But, first impressions..is there anything that I can do?

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Yah this site is in a sad state and really pisses me off just for the fact that no one "official" has said a word about its state. One problem is all the work that TR, Longwave and the other devs are doing could be wasted if Drupal Commerce gets into version 2 which I hope not as I don't like the attitude of the main devs.

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re: Concerning the drupal/ubercart module page

Hey Dan!

Thanks for taking the time to post and make us aware of some things. The drupal.org/project/ubercart page does indeed need some well overdue updates. I'm going to check with Andy about getting a few changes made to our drupal project page. We are also working hard to get a new demo site up and running. To my understanding, it's been down for quite some time. Which is NO GOOD!

I will also look into re-configuring the new user registration setup to make a little bit more sense after they have clicked the email authorization link. You're right-- that process seems a bit counter-intuitive.

Again, thanks for the productive posts!

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user registration link fixed!

the email confirmation link properly redirects to user/%uid/edit now.

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The drupal.org/project/ubercart page does indeed need some well overdue updates.

The only thing that needs to be updated on the project page is to remove all the links and references to ubercart.org.

Ubercart.org hasn't been maintained in years, and is currently undermining the Ubercart project with its excessive spam, dead links, and seriously outdated and incomplete documentation. It's an embarrassment to those of us who are working hard on the project. IMNSHO, it's time to shut this site down. Perhaps you should focus on getting ubercart.org into shape before you start messing around with the drupal.org project page.

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As TR said this site needs lots of clean up, or just redirect it to the Drupal UC page.. For me I want it done as not to alienate the current devs which there aren't many left. Drupal commerce seems to be coming along but I think the state of this site and the Drupal UC page is keeping others from devoting more time to Ubercart. It would be a sad thing to lose UC at this stage.

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To be absolutely clear,

Ubercart is not the same as ubercart.org

Ubercart, the open-source software project, is not going away. In fact, it is one of the 10 MOST ACTIVE active projects in Drupal, despite being developed by only a few people. (I measure activity by number of commits to the software and the number of issues being fixed, on average, every week.) The pace of Ubercart development is comparable to that of projects that have 20 times the number of users.

ubercart.org, on the other hand, is a privately-owned website that has not been maintained in a long, long time. Over the past year, there has been more spam than real posts. The "Live Sites" section is full of spam. The demo shop has not worked in well over a year. api.ubercart.org doesn't work either. There is no information AT ALL on the Drupal 7 version of Ubercart, even though this has been available for almost two years now. There is some documentation, but it's still primarily Drupal 5 - the Drupal 6 documentation is still incomplete after 3 years and the Drupal 7 documentation is non-existent. Sections such as "Contributions" are obsolete because Drupal projects should be hosted on Drupal.org like all other Drupal projects. Besides, "Contributions" mainly contains stuff that is no longer relevant (stuff that's now in Ubercart core, stuff that works only for the outdated Drupal 5 version of Ubercart, stuff that doesn't work, etc.). While ubercart.org still has some good information on it, the overall impression it gives is that Ubercart is a dead project. That's why I said above that ubercart.org is *undermining* the Ubercart project, and is currently an embarrassment to those of us who are working hard on the Ubercart project but still have to answer for the failings of ubercart.org, which we have no control over. This is why I'm suggesting that ubercart.org be shut down, and references to ubercart.org be removed from the Ubercart project page on drupal.org - ubercart.org is making us look bad and I'm tired of having to defend against the false impressions people have of the Ubercart project based on the decrepit ubercart.org website.

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Hey TR! I hear you dude. I

Hey TR!

I hear you dude. I apologize for my relevant ignorance on the subject. I'm realizing more that this project has not been maintained for quite some time. I also fully recognize that this community is the only reason the project continues to be a valid resource for developers worldwide. This week Andy has shifted me over from working on other projects to giving well overdue time to ubercart.org-- as well as it's Drupal project page. I think he realizes the state of the project and is dedicating his personal resources to getting things back up to presentation value. My goal is to be of assistance to you and the others who have put their blood sweat and tears into it.

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ubercart.org homepage, pov first-time user

tks for your replies--now I've noticed the Suggestions for this site (Ubercart.org) focus group--probably the appropriate place for me to go to w/his thread.