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So I haven't noticed any discussion on this topic but thought some might want this info.

A lot of ubercarters are making sites that sell downloads (or whatever) for under $12...

Paypal's standard rate "macro payments" is 2.9% plus $0.30. If you are selling an mp3 for example at $1.00, they take 33% of your sale!

Micro payments charge 5% plus $0.05... so for that same mp3, paypal only takes $0.10.

Check it out at https://www.paypal.com/IntegrationCenter/ic_micropayments.html

A quick comparison:
m=micropayments
s=standard "macropayments"

1.00 m=0.10 s=0.33
5.00 m=0.30 s=0.45
10.00 m=0.55 s=0.59
12.00 m=0.65 s=0.65 (the meeting point)
14.00 m=0.75 s=0.71
16.00 m=0.85 s=0.76
etc...

This isn't advertised on the paypal site at all so i thought people that are using paypal and selling stuff for under $12 would like this information.

Problem is you that if you want both macro and micro payments, you must have two seperate accounts. With Ubercart, at least for now, you can only use one account so you have to choose between the two.

Idea for the ubercart developers... a way to tell the checkout to go to your micropayments paypal account if sale is less than $12 and to the macropaymetns account for over $12. Until then, I'm going to give micropayments a shot.

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Re: Paypal Micropayments

Incredible! Thanks for the heads up on this. Regarding dual account info in Ubercart, I don't foresee any trouble setting it up... it'll just make the settings form a little more confusing. Sticking out tongue Is there anything that has to be done other than using a different business e-mail / API credentials?

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apparently not. it just

apparently not.
it just needs two accounts (two different business emails) for their side of things. i haven't actually tried the micropayments yet...after last post, a bunch of people bought hard copies of the cd's (14.95)... so i've been reluctant to make the switch.

man if you can make the two account thing happen, you will be my hero...

p.s. my site is live, but fine tuning things before i post.

thanks

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I just realized that this will be an even bigger issue that I had at first been imagining. (Strang, strange line...)

I called PP today and they didn't tell me anything about this solution. I searched for it here on a lark.

It appears that you only have one more email address to deal with.

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I just took the plunge as recent data suggests that most transactions will fall into the under $12 category. It's a bit of a pain to have 2 PayPal accounts since you also need 2 bank accounts. Oh well.

What will it take to get Ubercart to detect the total order and switch between PayPal accounts? There could be a mini-module for PayPal MicroPayments. When enabled, it provides an additional config section and some simple logic. (Simple for uberguys anyway, not for me.)

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Re: Paypal Micropayments

is this feature being implemented? I think it is interesting.

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ok... I've done this... so

ok...
I've done this... so far it is working. To build the submit form for paypal WPS, it first checks the "total_order" and if it is more than 12 then uses the normal email account. If it is less than 12 then it uses the micropayments account. You have a new form field in the settings to specify the micropayments email account first. Yes you need two different accounts in paypal to use this.
This is for Paypal WPS. not WPP.

apply the patch to uc_paypal.module and let me know if it works for you Smiling

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This worked great!

Thank you very much!
Scott

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Hello... Paypal micropayment

Hello...
Paypal micropayment fees have a different fee structure beneficial for those who sell items for less than $10. But it seems I would have to convert my regular account.

Sorry if this sounds confusing, if you do a search for paypal micropayments you will understand the differences.

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