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I have a client that wants to store a value that is the Trade price, is this any of the 3 standards price fields?

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Re: What is List Price, Cost and Sell Price?

You'll have to define what the trade price means to you. List cost and sell are the standard prices that any business uses. List price stand for what the item normally lists for, typically it's the MSRP (Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price.) Cost is the undisclosed cost of the item to the seller. Sell price is the actual price the item is to be sold for.

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Re: Re: What is List Price, Cost and Sell Price?

Hi, thanks for your reply...

My client manufactures toys and they sell both to Trade and End Users... but only to End Users using the ecommerce site so I'm guessing the MSRP, or RRP (Recommended Retail Price - what we call it in the UK) and the Sell Price will generally be the same (unless there's a sale on or something) and the cost is the cost that my client bought it in at - which I'm guessing will be used for Reports?

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Re: Re: Re: What is List Price, Cost and Sell Price?

Yes, you are correct. Sell Price is the only price that is actually required. On the two sites I've set up, we only use the sell price and leave the other two blank. I assume the cost would be used in some reporting, have not experienced it first hand.

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Role based pricing

Hi, sorry to start up such an old thread but it seemed the most conducive.

I'm developing an ubercart/drupal 5 solution right now, and I've got the role based pricing in effect and working well with the options.

Can the MSRP affect roles? Meaning can a Vendor or Wholesaler role be created and the MSRP be tied to their role?

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Re: Role based pricing

I'm not clear on what you mean by "MSRP ... tied to their role", or "MSRP affect roles". Those two statements seem like opposite directions of influence from each other to me.

I've not heard of anyone adjusting MSRP based on a users role, or adjusting a role based on any price (not even sure how to think about that one), so I'm not sure it's been tried, or what your use case is.

Most of the efforts on adjusted pricing by role have been centered on the sell price, as I'm sure you've seen, and pretty thoroughly covered in this thread: http://www.ubercart.org/forum/support/5838/different_role_prices_do_you_...
Though, if you haven't yet, you might check out comment #15, about displaying 'cost' to dealers.

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Thanks for the reply Uberchic.
Okay, let me simplify the question:

What is the MSRP for if not just for display purposes?
How can one use the MSRP in relation to user roles?
Example: You wish to sell products to all anonymous users at the MSRP. Authenticated users at the list price and to vendors at the cost price.
Before anybody defines What the cost price is, blow it out your ass, we know. The question Herein is why have the Three prices when obviously only two are necessary. What did the developers intend for the MSRP to act as, in contrast to the list price?
What is the point of having the two therein (msrp and list)?

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Re: Re: Re: Role based pricing

MSRP, manufacturers suggested retail price, is in some cases required to be displayed by the manufacturers.

Cost, in some use cases is actually a company's cost, for which they may want to use for record keeping purposes.

Sell price is the only field that the shopping cart cares about, and what the customer will be charged, unless there are other intervention.

So, to answer, both MSRP and cost are only for display and/or record keeping purposes.

Truthfully, there could have been any number of fields. There are three because of why Ubercart was born in the first place (planning on putting a 'history of' up on the home page soon). Ubercart was initally created for a U.S. based online refrigeration shop--Prima Supply Restaurant Equipment. So, a lot of the aspects of the cart are US/shippable/dealership-centric. As a distributor of refrigeration equipment, the refrigeration manufacturers have a 'list' or 'msrp' price, which is occassionally required to be displayed to end customers, mostly to dissuade them from harrassing the manufacturers themselves (that's just my best guess as to why they require it, and not based in fact at all). The cost of a product is also important for the salesman to know when working on discounts for dents etc. And the sell price, well that's what the cart actually uses to charge the customer. So, that's why three, and that's why 2 of them seem redundant to you. They made sense for the company building this cart in the first place.

Any of the price/role variation modules should be modifying the sell price, including maybe creating multiple sell prices, of which the cart still pulls only one, in order to work properly.

The fact that the Ubercart handles file downloads and other totally unrelated to shipping refrigerators use cases at all is because of the amazing community that has built up around Ubercart. Community members have written modules to fit their use cases and contributed all that work back for everyone's benefit. If there's something you want the cart to do, or maybe do differently, you are welcome to collaborate with other members to make that happen, or do it yourself, and are encouraged to contribute it back to the community.

One last comment: Hope on the horizon...in drupal 7, there will be fields in core, and it will be glorious. Then, price can just be a field...with all the possibilities...awesome.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Role based pricing

It's great for site owners to be able to enter internal costs such as MSRP and their own cost - but are these two values displayed in any of the Ubercart Reports?? Where does Ubercart display "Your Store Cost" totals so store owners can see what they spent on inventory internally?

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Role based pricing

found the answer - it's in the Product Reports (revenue is customer sale price and gross is internal store cost)